2008 express van 6.0 turn key to start will not send power to starter
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2008 express van 6.0 turn key to start will not send power to starter
I have a 2008 express van 6.0 When you turn the key to start it will not send power to starter. I have replaced the starter. thats not the problem you can jump the starter from under the van and it will start. Help.
#2
I am having the same problem with my 02 express van. When I hold the key in the on position sometimes it starts right off. Then sometime I have to hold the key in the on position for up to a couple of minutes before it decides to turn over and start. There is an electronic box behind where the key actually goes in. Which when the key is inserted into the ignition switch and the contacts are made it sends the signal to the ignition system and other areas. The only thing is which part is causing to problem b/c the electrical box is 100.00 and a the ignition switch is 60.00 at advanced auto. This may or may not fix it though b/c the electrical systems in the Vans have been known to be difficult to diagnose. Could just be a bad ground somewhere and as you may have figured out these vans are tight under the hood. Any advice from all you guru's would be greatly appreciated.
#3
I am having the same problem with my 02 express van. When I hold the key in the on position sometimes it starts right off. Then sometime I have to hold the key in the on position for up to a couple of minutes before it decides to turn over and start. There is an electronic box behind where the key actually goes in. Which when the key is inserted into the ignition switch and the contacts are made it sends the signal to the ignition system and other areas. The only thing is which part is causing to problem b/c the electrical box is 100.00 and a the ignition switch is 60.00 at advanced auto. This may or may not fix it though b/c the electrical systems in the Vans have been known to be difficult to diagnose. Could just be a bad ground somewhere and as you may have figured out these vans are tight under the hood. Any advice from all you guru's would be greatly appreciated.
#4
Welcome to the forum. On yours, the starter solenoid is powered through fusible link 2, Crank relay 73, and then 40A Starter Solenoid fuse 64, all under the hood. The ECM energizes the Crank relay with the key in start and PNP switch closed (i.e., transmission in park or neutral). Trace the path with a multimeter?
I turned the key to the on position and shorted the starter to turn the motor over but it would not start. I verified all the fuses were good and I replaced the starter relay as well. I also checked the fusebable link cable and it is ok.
I had a PNP switch go out on a '00 Chevy 2500 Diesel but it seems too coincidental that this would be the problem at the same time I had the starter dis-engagement problem. Is here a way to bypass the PNP switch to check that part?
Thoughts?
Last edited by MNellis; November 4th, 2011 at 2:55 PM.
#5
Welcome to the forum. You'd have had to disconnect the battery when you replaced the starter? If so, you may want to check the cable connections. Also, on yours, the starter solenoid is powered through the main fusible link, 40A IGN-A fuse under the hood, ignition switch, 10A CRANK fuse in the I/P fuse block, PNP switch, and then STARTER relay. You may want to check the voltage at the IGN-A fuse and then at the CRANK fuse with key in START. If you find that the voltage at the CRANK fuse is low or absent, the ignition switch may be shot.
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Welcome to the forum. You'd have had to disconnect the battery when you replaced the starter? If so, you may want to check the cable connections. Also, on yours, the starter solenoid is powered through the main fusible link, 40A IGN-A fuse under the hood, ignition switch, 10A CRANK fuse in the I/P fuse block, PNP switch, and then STARTER relay. You may want to check the voltage at the IGN-A fuse and then at the CRANK fuse with key in START. If you find that the voltage at the CRANK fuse is low or absent, the ignition switch may be shot.
When you say "starter solenoid" are you referring to the engagement solenoid on the starter itself? I checked the 10A crank and 40A fuses you mentioned and they were good.
It's a mute point now since it's at the dealer but I was leaning towards the PNP switch since I had a problem with this part on my Dodge Diesel.
I'll let you know what you dealer comes up with. I will guarantee the dealer will look at the battery terminal and say it has to be replaced. Unfortunately, I'm sure they'll want to replace the whole cable and unwilling to just fix the terminal end. I won't like it but this is our restaurant van and I don't have the time to mess with it in the parking lot.
Thanks again.
Last edited by MNellis; November 6th, 2011 at 6:31 PM.
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Oh, well, I hope they do right by you. It's better to replace the battery cable than put a new end on it which is a nightmare from the engineering standpoint. The starter solenoid is, of course, on the starter. As for the fuses, I assumed they weren't blown and thus I was more interested in the voltage levels.
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Oh, well, I hope they do right by you. It's better to replace the battery cable than put a new end on it which is a nightmare from the engineering standpoint. The starter solenoid is, of course, on the starter. As for the fuses, I assumed they weren't blown and thus I was more interested in the voltage levels.
I know the fuse wasn't blown when it got there and it could not have been blown if they were able to start it but, either way, after replacing the cable it starts fine.
As I thought, the cable was pretty expensive at $161.
Thanks again for all your comments and help.
Mike
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starter not disengaging
Have a 2008 Express 3500, 296,000 mi. and recently starter not disengaging when the key is released. Replaced starter yesterday because I thought that was the culprit, but upon second starting, it did not disengage again until I turned off the key and tried a few more times. Could it be the switch? If so, can I, with limited mechanical ability, check and fix? Thanks